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who is the real mitt romney. that was a question a lot of folks had going into the final hours of election day. >> all right. >> unexpected choice for number one, but a clear favorite of the "outfront" team, alan simpson going gangnam style. let's watch it. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and getting on youtube so you can see gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> i got a bum knee. >> the lasso again, and then the horse back. horse, horse. >> there's just so much awesome about that. that was for a group called the can kicks back. >> what was awesome about that in. >> everything. >> roland is right. there was nothing awesome about that. as a matter of fact, roland is right, john. there's nothing right. nothing. >> john's problem is inside, he's a very old man, too. i mean, it proves old people should really -- really old people should never use social media. >> an old man who is in debt and deficits. >> he's going to do the hammer dance? >> he's one of these great public servant who will say or do whatever it tak
who is the real mitt romney. that was a question a lot of folks had going into the final hours of election day. >> all right. >> unexpected choice for number one, but a clear favorite of the "outfront" team, alan simpson going gangnam style. let's watch it. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and getting on youtube so you can see gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> i got a bum knee. >> the lasso again, and then the horse back. horse, horse. >>...
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romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard because some part of me as a political junkie thinks the best move is the most incendiary crazy there, for that mitt romney moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry on the shoulder. this physical debate style which also revealed him for crazy and not driven by the same things most humans are driven by but the competitive workforce bot. i think at the end of the day we keep going back to the 47% video. i was waiting to hold it. >> you can use it as much as you want. it will be back. >> it is everyth
romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what...
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romney destroyed him. but in that rhetoric, he sealed his fate in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the best move is the crazy thing. and for that, i would give it to mitt romney actually moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry, this kind of physical debate style he also had that revealed him to be crazy and not driven by the same things that most humans are driven by. but sort of the competitive work force bought. but i think at tend of the day e keep going back to the 47% -- >> it is everything. >> the release of that. and the timing of that changed the contours of the race, forever. >> and we don't really know who is resp
romney destroyed him. but in that rhetoric, he sealed his fate in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the...
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. >> romney will be the nominee. >> republicans are waging war on women. >> is mitt romney from jupiter? >> do i believe the supreme court should overturn roe versus wade? yes. >> i love you, women. >> back in my day, they used bear aspirin for contraceptives. >> the gals put it between their knees, it wasn't that costly. >> a fascinating read. >> i know the debate over this law. >> democrats thought they would lose. the republicans thought they would win. >> i think roberts found the answer. >> when we look back, we'll be better off. >> governor romney's caught on tape moment. >> that shocking tape from romney. >> they will never take responsibility for their lives. >> i'm speaking off the cuff. >> if i were a rich man. >> people want to know who will win who will score the punches. >> presidential candidates battening down the hatches. >> i'm sorry, jim, i will stop the subsidy to pbs. >> i like pbs. i love big bird. >> a zinger every minute. >> brought us binders of women. >> we also have fewer horse and bayonets. >> horses and bayonets. >> oh yeah ♪ ♪ >> i just called president
. >> romney will be the nominee. >> republicans are waging war on women. >> is mitt romney from jupiter? >> do i believe the supreme court should overturn roe versus wade? yes. >> i love you, women. >> back in my day, they used bear aspirin for contraceptives. >> the gals put it between their knees, it wasn't that costly. >> a fascinating read. >> i know the debate over this law. >> democrats thought they would lose. the republicans...
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in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more bang for the buck because they bought ads early. >> the obama campaign purchased it way ahead of time. romney bought it the week of. lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years, since december 2010, and, in fact, if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. in our final poll, full poll before the election, just 36% of registered voters said they had a positive view of the republican party, 43% held a negative view. the democratic party
in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama...
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george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
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i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young lifetime. >> but how do you call a man with car elevators in his house a loser? he's doing very well. victoria? >> my loser award goes out to my fellow texans in terms of rick perry. rick perry flopped in the primary. then he goes back to texas and puts all his chips behind david dewhurst in the senate race. when ted cruz comes out and mops the floor. so rick perry is a double loser nationally and at the state level. >> richard? >> so i'm going to break my copout rule here and go with a whole group. it's all of those ceos including mitt
i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young...
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but the president didn't bring that up in the first debate, giving romney a convincing win. then a late october surprise from mother nature that put the campaign on hold. >> this morning, the perfect storm. >> reporter: and resulted in some strange political bedfellows. >> i want to thank the president personally. >> reporter: by the long of this long, nasty campaign, millions felt the same as this sobbing 4-year-old. >> i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney. >> reporter: on november 6, it was an historic win for president obama, who picked up every political battleground state. >> barack obama has been re-elected. >> reporter: there were tears in boston. >> i so wish i had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction. >> reporter: and jubilation in chicago. as the president looked ahead to four more years. >> i return to the white house more determined and more inspired than ever. >> reporter: karen travers, abc news, washington. >> some iconic moments there. >> no matter what politics you side with, it was great seeing all the republican c
but the president didn't bring that up in the first debate, giving romney a convincing win. then a late october surprise from mother nature that put the campaign on hold. >> this morning, the perfect storm. >> reporter: and resulted in some strange political bedfellows. >> i want to thank the president personally. >> reporter: by the long of this long, nasty campaign, millions felt the same as this sobbing 4-year-old. >> i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney....
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romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who wil
romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of...
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number. 7, presidential candidate mitt romney. >> this election is over, but our principles endure. >> romney ran on his business credentials but it was his multiple gaffes during the campaign that analysts said sealed his fate. remember the 47% comments -- >> 47s we% who were with him. >> and this one. >> binders full of women. >> number 6, ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> breaking news regarding the chief of the cia. general david petraeus. >> can you talk with us please? >> the news was unexpected. the reason, shocking. petraeus, a retired four-star general, had quit his cia post and admitted he had cheated on his wife. petraeus's mistress was also his biographer, paula broadwell. >> and don't touch that remote. there's more. we're going to show you who you picked as the top five most intriguing people of 2012. that's coming up next right after the break. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they
number. 7, presidential candidate mitt romney. >> this election is over, but our principles endure. >> romney ran on his business credentials but it was his multiple gaffes during the campaign that analysts said sealed his fate. remember the 47% comments -- >> 47s we% who were with him. >> and this one. >> binders full of women. >> number 6, ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> breaking news regarding the chief of the cia. general david petraeus....
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. >> there's a coalesces behind romney. >> who better at this juncture. >> we don't have to wait, it can begin this year, november 6th i need your vote. >> the supreme court upheld the constitutionality of the affordable care act. >> it shouldn't be called obamacare anymore, obama's health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole coast is devastated. >> the number of ambulances to move these children is remarkable. >> and lost homes in many forms-- ♪ ♪ >> andrew breitbart died this morning, he was 43. he was a publisher, an activist and a commentator, but that says almost nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like
. >> there's a coalesces behind romney. >> who better at this juncture. >> we don't have to wait, it can begin this year, november 6th i need your vote. >> the supreme court upheld the constitutionality of the affordable care act. >> it shouldn't be called obamacare anymore, obama's health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house...
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more than just about obama and romney. it was about socialism and capitali capitalism, about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number 1 is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming but didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> so those are the top 10 business stories. join don lemon for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politics, money and the most scandalous. top 10 of 2012 airs sunday night at 8:00 eastern here on cnn. win. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerew
more than just about obama and romney. it was about socialism and capitali capitalism, about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number 1 is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming but didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> so those are the top 10 business stories. join don lemon for the biggest stories of the year in...
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you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what the president calls accurately bending the long term cost curve. you're not cutting costs in a way that can reduce economic growth immediately, but you reduce the long term debt obligation for the country, which is what we need to do. both parties agree with that, but the debt ceiling creates a situation where we really will have to start dealing with it. if we deal with it constructively, that's great for the economy. if we deal with it destructively like we have every other time we played this game, the country could be in trouble. >> i think you're right, i don't think you're even going t
you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what...
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he was the author of much of mitt romney's economic policies. a good friend of the show. jean, let me start with you. tax increases on people making more than 250,000 a year. let's use that as a number. it might be 400,000, it might be half a million. it might be a million. let's take $250,000. if you increase taxes, the marge nalt tax rate from 35% to 39.6% on that group of people, does it hurt the economy? >> i'm going to use estimates from the congressional budget office. a nonpartisan score keeper for congress. they found if you let the bush tax cuts on higher earners, it would boost the economy almost as much as if you let everybody's bush tax cuts stay in place. there's little difference on how much would you help the economy if you let the bush tax cuts stay in place for everyone or for most people. in that sense it sounds like it wouldn't have a huge effect on the economic recovery. having said that i think if you asked most economists and tax experts, all things being equal is it better to have lower rates or higher rates, they would say probably better to have l
he was the author of much of mitt romney's economic policies. a good friend of the show. jean, let me start with you. tax increases on people making more than 250,000 a year. let's use that as a number. it might be 400,000, it might be half a million. it might be a million. let's take $250,000. if you increase taxes, the marge nalt tax rate from 35% to 39.6% on that group of people, does it hurt the economy? >> i'm going to use estimates from the congressional budget office. a nonpartisan...
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the attack ads put romney on defense for months. the president also got a lip fr lift from the supreme court. romney vowed to strike it down himself. >> i'm not one that's going to get rid of obama care. >> reporter: at number seven, gas. >> governor romney, do you feel that your gas has overshadowed your foreign trips? >> reporter: or in romney's case, his entire foreign trip where a campaign aide lashed out at reporters. a gaffe that went global. and then at number sick, the conventions were remembered less for the nominees and their running plates and more for -- >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. >> reporter: the warmup acts that stole the show. >> we believe that we're all in this together is a far better philosophy than you're on your own. >> reporter: number five, the september 11 attack in benghazi injected foreign policy into the race. >> justice will be done. >> reporter: a week later, the campaign shifted again to the hidden cram ra video of romney's comments on t
the attack ads put romney on defense for months. the president also got a lip fr lift from the supreme court. romney vowed to strike it down himself. >> i'm not one that's going to get rid of obama care. >> reporter: at number seven, gas. >> governor romney, do you feel that your gas has overshadowed your foreign trips? >> reporter: or in romney's case, his entire foreign trip where a campaign aide lashed out at reporters. a gaffe that went global. and then at number...
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. >>> how badly did mitt romney want to be president? not badly. tag romney telling "the boston globe," if his father could have found someone else to take his place, he would have gladly stepped aside. his father wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire. all right. didn't seem like it during the campaign. >> it sure didn't seem like it. but he is a private person and that did cause some problems for him. he wasn't ready to talk about things until it got too late. >>> just released poll numbers say a majority of americans say the u.s. and other countries should not get involved in syria. 52% against the idea of "usa today" or other country's planes to set up safe zones. this as a gruesome scene unfolds. people who got out to buy bread were killed as they lined up at a bakery to get the bread. mohammed jamjoon joins us by phone from beruit. some of the video you are about to see is extremely graphic. what can you tell us? >> dana, it's horrific and grizzly details that are emerging. opposition activist says hundr
. >>> how badly did mitt romney want to be president? not badly. tag romney telling "the boston globe," if his father could have found someone else to take his place, he would have gladly stepped aside. his father wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire. all right. didn't seem like it during the campaign. >> it sure didn't seem like it. but he is a private person and that did cause some problems for him. he wasn't ready to talk...
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my argument to you is i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy, given his background. >> god, no. do you know why? >> you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who have turned presidents. herbert hoover, george bush, the first george bush. businessmen, i think shall there were a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy presidents. >> why have you been so consistent in your support of obama? is >> i can't even imagine thinking about what would happen to the supreme court if a republican were the president. i mean, citizens united is a horrible thing that people can spend and waste this amount of money on elections. think of all the people that could be benefit -- could benefit from that money. >> there have been two elections since i've been in america. there have been two elections where one party has had far more financial power than the other. one was here in california with meg whitman, and one was nationally. romney clearly had more money than obama for most of that campaign, and in both cases, the
my argument to you is i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy, given his background. >> god, no. do you know why? >> you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who have turned presidents. herbert hoover, george bush, the first george bush. businessmen, i think shall there were a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy presidents. >> why have you been so consistent in your support of...
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a romney backer suddenly christie was standing arm in arm with the president praising mr. obama's leadership as they toured sandy's wrath. >> when you know you have responsibility for those folks, could you give a damn about the politics of things. i could care less., owlympian g douglas. one of the fab five of the london games, she captured our hearts becoming the first african-american gymnast to win gold in both the individual all-around and team competitions at the same olympics. >> i wanted to inspire a nation. and the whole point is to inspire a generation, and i love that. >> she did just that. number two, the school aged activist. malala rose to fame blogging about the brutality of her life in pakistan under taliban rule. not yet a teenager, she dared to suggest girls not only deserve but have a right to an education. >> i will get my education if it is in home, school or anyplace. >> the taliban retaliated, hunting her down, shooting her in the neck and back. the attack outraged even hardened pakistanis and all around the world, malala quickly became a symbol of g
a romney backer suddenly christie was standing arm in arm with the president praising mr. obama's leadership as they toured sandy's wrath. >> when you know you have responsibility for those folks, could you give a damn about the politics of things. i could care less., owlympian g douglas. one of the fab five of the london games, she captured our hearts becoming the first african-american gymnast to win gold in both the individual all-around and team competitions at the same olympics....
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more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism and spending and cutting and what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming and didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> and make sure you join me for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politic, money and the most scandalous stories. the top ten of 2012, 8:00 eastern. a teen battling a terminal illness uses lyrics instead of letters to say goodbyes. >> it's kind of me always being there for him. like if they keep singing that song throughout their life, it will be worth it. >> this teen's final wish, next. s that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymba
more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism and spending and cutting and what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming and didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> and make sure you join me for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politic,...
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election, we saw chris christie go from being one of president obama's toughest critics, one of mitt romney's best surrogates to really putting the people of new jersey, his state, the disaster in the number one place, number one priority and worked with the local and federal authorities, embraced the help that was coming from everywhere, and that has seen him get really high approval ratings. you know, it's funnich sometimes doing the right thing is the politically correct thing to do. >> they say good policy is good politics, vice versa. would be nice if other people on both sides of the aisle followed that. okay, richard. i want to get to your next naughty because these are two republicans who gave republican leaders, the people here i cover, major, major heartburn, you see them there,ed to akin and richard mourdock. >> they became the problems the republicans were having in recapturing the senate. ed to akin, the republican senate candidate from missouri and richard mourdock from minnesota, made offensive remarks about women and rape and todd akin introduce the the concept of so-called le
election, we saw chris christie go from being one of president obama's toughest critics, one of mitt romney's best surrogates to really putting the people of new jersey, his state, the disaster in the number one place, number one priority and worked with the local and federal authorities, embraced the help that was coming from everywhere, and that has seen him get really high approval ratings. you know, it's funnich sometimes doing the right thing is the politically correct thing to do....
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did you see mitt romney did not want to run? >> i saw that. that was in the boston globe. that was a great piece worth reading. then he found out how bad things were going on his ipad. >> yeah. but maybe he didn't want to run because there were times i really kind of thought it looked like he didn't want to run. >> yeah, but towards the end, i thought he did. >> he tried hard. thanks. >> okay. >> come over here. >>> in other news, a dock worker strike on the atlantic and coast could be just days away. port operators have been negotiating with the long shoreman association since march. but the two sides are said to be far from closing on a deal that would cover cargo handling at 15 ports, a 9d 0-day extension to an employment contract. the union has said 15,000 long shoremen could strike a day later. rick scott sent a letter to president obama asking him to invoke federal law in order to invoke a cooling off period. i don't know what the likelihood of that is. i don't know what the president might do. do you think he would -- >> wow. that's a lot of red. >> you step out. yo
did you see mitt romney did not want to run? >> i saw that. that was in the boston globe. that was a great piece worth reading. then he found out how bad things were going on his ipad. >> yeah. but maybe he didn't want to run because there were times i really kind of thought it looked like he didn't want to run. >> yeah, but towards the end, i thought he did. >> he tried hard. thanks. >> okay. >> come over here. >>> in other news, a dock worker...
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winning overwhelming majorities over these nonwhite young people. 6 60% of white steeniors voted fo romney. and there's a risk over time if they're not restrained, they can squeeze out spending investment on young people. >> a lot of this sort of reminds us of 1995 or thereabouts when there was an issue regarding the shutting down of the government between president bill clinton and the congressional republicans. it seemed at that time it was advantage president or whoever it was in the white house. is that the same sort of scenario we're seeing right now or is it possible for this president to overplay his hand? >> i think we're defining dysfunction down. i mean, the willingness -- maybe we will get an 11th hour agreement that avoids the fiscal cliff, but it will be a fairly minimal agreement. nothing like a big comprehensive deal. especially the republicans are having difficulty making the compromises you need to move forward in what is a very closely divided society. what is the alternative? you have a republican house but a democratic president who will be there for four years and a re
winning overwhelming majorities over these nonwhite young people. 6 60% of white steeniors voted fo romney. and there's a risk over time if they're not restrained, they can squeeze out spending investment on young people. >> a lot of this sort of reminds us of 1995 or thereabouts when there was an issue regarding the shutting down of the government between president bill clinton and the congressional republicans. it seemed at that time it was advantage president or whoever it was in the...